it has a 20-round magazine and probably would be illegal under dianne feinstein's law. those kinds of firearms have been existence since early 1800s. [inaudible] >> earlier have thought about -- the ownership about fighting tyranny and pushing back on government that is taking your guns and change the law in bad ways or taking over. yesterday during the hearing, senator lindsay graham cho -- who has become an ally of you pushed back on the thing of owning guns to attack the government is not a legitimate purpose. do you agree with that? >> wayne was asked by senator durbin, what was the purpose of the second amendment? and wayne said, if you look back at it, it was included in the constitution as a final work against tyranny. which is historically true. and durbin said, see, he wants guns to go after the government. that's not the point and graham did the make the point what the second amendment was and continues to be is designed for protection of the country, protection of the community, a town, the family and the individual. and lindsay's point was a vailed one. sena